tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post3398935253991973738..comments2023-12-25T01:24:48.957-05:00Comments on Republic of Gilead: OneThing 2012: Lou Engle on Taking the New Apostolic Reformation AbroadAhabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-1779362555355994232013-01-05T12:16:23.146-05:002013-01-05T12:16:23.146-05:00Infidel753 -- I'm getting a mental image of di...Infidel753 -- I'm getting a mental image of distant lands filled with divorced men clutching turtles and a baffled Lou Engle scratching his head.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-79085536772452405052013-01-05T06:43:31.814-05:002013-01-05T06:43:31.814-05:00I do remember reading once about an American Chris...I do remember reading once about an American Christian missionary who went to Japan to preach. He had learned the language fairly well but kept mispronouncing some of the words. At one point he was trying to say <i>Tsumi wo sute, Kami ni shitagai-nasai</i> (renounce your sins and follow God), but it came out <i>Tsuma wo sute, kame ni shitagai-nasai</i> (renounce your wife and follow a turtle). He also kept referring to Jesus as <i>kame no ko</i> (son of a turtle). One wonders what the Japanese listeners made of such strange doctrines. If the kind of semiliterates who listen to Engle really go off evangelizing in Assamese or Tamil or something, the results are likely to be at least as bad.Infidel753https://www.blogger.com/profile/10965786814334886696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-2382687792499782312013-01-04T23:23:27.279-05:002013-01-04T23:23:27.279-05:00Infidel753 -- Does anyone think this over-caffeina...Infidel753 -- Does anyone think this over-caffeinated missionary effort is going to end well?Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-64558803814908758812013-01-04T22:47:13.543-05:002013-01-04T22:47:13.543-05:00Oh, great. As if those "people groups" ...Oh, great. As if those "people groups" hadn't already suffered enough from smallpox and imperialism and labor exploitation, now they're going to get a bunch of nutbars from Hicksville USA spouting gibberish at them. I wonder how you say "God hates fags" in Quechua?<br /><br />Ekballo? I hope they kickballo.Infidel753https://www.blogger.com/profile/10965786814334886696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-73795888024133805562013-01-04T15:41:09.839-05:002013-01-04T15:41:09.839-05:00Donna -- I wish I knew. I'd give anything to b...Donna -- I wish I knew. I'd give anything to be a fly on the wall at their planning meetings.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-9081503418444966132013-01-04T15:06:48.591-05:002013-01-04T15:06:48.591-05:00I can't imagine what leaders like Engle are re...I can't imagine what leaders like Engle are really thinking when they say such outrageous things. Good reporting, Ahab.Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-34845754114098756262013-01-04T12:13:45.206-05:002013-01-04T12:13:45.206-05:00Sherry -- I too wish they would spend less time on...Sherry -- I too wish they would spend less time on "signs and wonders" and more time on helping their neighbors. As for the whole divine plan versus free will issue, do you really expect these folks to think through what they're saying?Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-19076022847289686772013-01-04T12:02:12.047-05:002013-01-04T12:02:12.047-05:00The logic these folks never seem to get is that if...The logic these folks never seem to get is that if God has a plan, then nothing we do or don't do makes any difference. It is all part of the plan. And that means we have zero free will. So either God has a plan or he doesn't. Now they say he has a plan. Do they really take that to it's logical conclusion? No. They mix it all up because they understand none of it. They just spend all their time talking about it, instead of doing the work (helping the neighbor). Such a waste. Sherry Peytonhttp://afeatheradrift.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-46948452408756348542013-01-04T10:02:46.252-05:002013-01-04T10:02:46.252-05:00Connie -- Welcome! I worry about the messages that...Connie -- Welcome! I worry about the messages that Lou Engle and his missionaries will promote overseas. Hopefully, international observers can help us keep an eye on their rhetoric.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-42031226206401971372013-01-04T09:06:27.738-05:002013-01-04T09:06:27.738-05:00**As Engle and his allies send young NAR-affiliate...**As Engle and his allies send young NAR-affiliated missionaries abroad, will anti-abortion and homophobic messages be part of their great commission? We will see.**<br /><br />I believe anti-abortion and homophobic messages are included in their dogma. While they are not included on the 'front page' of their mission statement the idea the LGBT crowd consorts with demons (or are demons) is an accepted unstated fact; kind of like Christmas is American, not Christian.<br /><br />The more I read of Mr Engle's ministry the more I worry for the peoples of my favorite planet. I will heed his call for prayer but not exactly as he expects for I am devoutly Pagan. :) <br /><br />ConnieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com