tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post1565278585035993214..comments2023-12-25T01:24:48.957-05:00Comments on Republic of Gilead: More Gems from the Thanksgiving Family ForumAhabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-3208937898332632462011-12-04T21:02:08.531-05:002011-12-04T21:02:08.531-05:00Paul -- You're not wrong at all.
Cognitive Di...Paul -- You're not wrong at all.<br /><br />Cognitive Dissenter -- The hypocrisy is just mind-blowing, isn't it? What stuns me is that his supporters seem to have no problem with this.<br /><br />Wise Fool -- Best to keep an eye on folks like him.<br /><br />Nance -- This is what makes so many right-wing calls for "small government" so disingenuous.<br /><br />I haven't read PEOPLE OF THE LIE, but I just looked it up, and now I want to. Thanks for the book tip.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-91010850130013929132011-12-04T19:59:48.670-05:002011-12-04T19:59:48.670-05:00Yeah, you're probably right about Gingrich. H...Yeah, you're probably right about Gingrich. He's smart enough to know what he's doing, even if he's not moral enough to think it's inappropriate.TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-10387463146612625722011-12-04T18:37:21.792-05:002011-12-04T18:37:21.792-05:00Newt knows what everyone should do. He knows what ...Newt knows what everyone should do. He knows what preachers should preach, how we should handle every problem we face, even how poor children should earn their education. So why don't I believe him as an engineer of smaller government?<br /><br />Ever read Scott Peck's People of The Lie?Nancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15166865250789996825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-42260616225086509262011-12-04T18:37:15.447-05:002011-12-04T18:37:15.447-05:00So Newt, the guy who cheated on and abandoned his ...So Newt, the guy who cheated on and abandoned his cancer-stricken wife, is now the authority on morality and values?<br /><br />That's rich.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-68320353809724445582011-12-04T15:22:52.102-05:002011-12-04T15:22:52.102-05:00Yeah,it really irritates me that our country seems...Yeah,it really irritates me that our country seems to be discarding the values of the Enlightenment -- which are largely the values it was founded on. Or am I wrong about that Ahab. Am I wrong to think that Enlightenment values are under assault today?Paul Sunstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462598852553696040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-86585564733435439232011-12-04T15:14:40.021-05:002011-12-04T15:14:40.021-05:00Paul -- Too true. People attribute values to Chris...Paul -- Too true. People attribute values to Christianity that actually emerged out of Greek, Roman, or Enlightenment thought. This is why historical literacy is so important.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-43450818035661044102011-12-04T14:55:16.684-05:002011-12-04T14:55:16.684-05:00It seems there is a whole industry in this country...It seems there is a whole industry in this country engaged in manufacturing "traditional Judeo-Christian values" for people who are too poorly educated to know a Judeo-Christian value from a Grecco-Roman value -- or any other value.Paul Sunstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462598852553696040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-84790366805688521092011-12-04T14:06:27.971-05:002011-12-04T14:06:27.971-05:00Murr -- Ain't that the truth!
Knatolee -- Sin...Murr -- Ain't that the truth!<br /><br />Knatolee -- Since when did the Religious Right let reality get in the way of a nasty sound bite? Sadly, Gingrich isn't the only right-winger who has stereotyped and demonized the Occupiers.<br /><br />Doug -- Indeed. They neglect so many facts about the founding fathers, choosing instead to mould them into whatever they want them to be.<br /><br />Wise Fool -- Oh, I'm sure Gingrich knows exactly what he's saying. In a race with such high stakes, I'm convinced that he chooses his words deliberately. He's trying to appeal to right-wing Christians with his rhetoric, and it seems to be working. As for Bachmann, she's full of nonsense, and she has a skewed view of history.<br /><br />Donna -- Fear is a well-worn tool in the Religious Right toolbox, be it fear of secularists, fear of gays, fear of Muslims, etc.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-37569140654192156352011-12-04T10:54:47.000-05:002011-12-04T10:54:47.000-05:00Many conservative religious movements like to defi...Many conservative religious movements like to define the world in black and white, good vs evil terms. Gingrich and Bachmann understand and are playing into that. (Perhaps Bachmann actually believes it.) Anyhow, they've certainly know how to use fear to their advantage.Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-86133576448721791562011-12-04T10:49:25.459-05:002011-12-04T10:49:25.459-05:00So, to Gingrich, the 18th century pursuit of happi...So, to Gingrich, the 18th century pursuit of happiness meant wisdom and virtue, and yet the French Revolution (coincidentally also in the 18th century) was anti-clerical and anti-God? I think that he'd better check his math again. I doubt he recognizes it, or perhaps he does but does not care, but his words are pushing for the establishment of Christianity as our national religion by suggesting that schools should start doing the work of churches.<br /><br />As for Bachmann, I'd love for he to cite in American law where it is that you must only worship God, that you can't make idols, that you can't blaspheme, and that you can't work on the Sabbath, you know, the first four of the Ten Commandments which serve as the foundation of our law. I say left the churches speak politically, and take away their tax exempt status at the same time.TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-72602478188237124742011-12-04T08:29:28.687-05:002011-12-04T08:29:28.687-05:00Oh, to have a working time machine that could allo...Oh, to have a working time machine that could allow for a little get together of these wingnuts and our Founding Fathers!<br /><br />Bachmann, Gingrich, and Perry sound more like failed comedians immitating Archie Bunker than public servants.<br /><br />Yes, Newt, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. If more people had a little of it you guys would lose your stock-in-trade.Doug Bhttp://gropingtheelephant.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-79277146487310763372011-12-04T06:24:22.388-05:002011-12-04T06:24:22.388-05:00Uh, I think that public park was paid for by every...Uh, I think that public park was paid for by everyone's TAXES, but why let a little reality stand in the way of some entrenched pomposity?!Knatoleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809822081515082096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-36979346997836805712011-12-04T04:06:46.989-05:002011-12-04T04:06:46.989-05:00Lordy, lordy, lordy. They can't even get past ...Lordy, lordy, lordy. They can't even get past the "thou shalt not bear false witness" one.Murr Brewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03422638986410813520noreply@blogger.com