tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post3918569044291826091..comments2023-12-25T01:24:48.957-05:00Comments on Republic of Gilead: True Tolerance Talk at 2012 CPACAhabhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-21513427998704586282012-03-26T07:30:57.697-04:002012-03-26T07:30:57.697-04:00Knatolee -- It would be a world in which people wo...Knatolee -- It would be a world in which people worked on real problems!Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-31056213166994164532012-03-25T21:59:15.219-04:002012-03-25T21:59:15.219-04:00Excellent quote! And I will not tolerate intoleran...Excellent quote! And I will not tolerate intolerance. These people are bigots and they should stop pretending to be anything but. I will not tolerate their hatred.<br /><br />Can you imagine how much better the world would be if narrow-minded bigots stopped worry so much about what other people were up to (particularly in the bedroom), and focussed on improving their own behaviour?Knatoleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809822081515082096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-87151760040527670532012-03-25T19:44:01.888-04:002012-03-25T19:44:01.888-04:00Buffy -- Excellent quote, and it couldn't be m...Buffy -- Excellent quote, and it couldn't be more timely. I will remember this quote the next time Religious Right people claim they're being "persecuted."Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-88601241889007082282012-03-25T18:47:02.566-04:002012-03-25T18:47:02.566-04:00It's disgusting the way the RRRW twists the no...It's disgusting the way the RRRW twists the notion of tolerance by insisting others must tolerate their intolerance. Any time they do that I respond with Karl Popper, who nailed it:<br /><br />“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them… We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”Buffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328034026300036704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-62632263509814152862012-03-25T14:15:43.720-04:002012-03-25T14:15:43.720-04:00Wise Fool -- Aye. If they accepted the premise tha...Wise Fool -- Aye. If they accepted the premise that sexual orientation is innate, their arguments would look quite difference.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-71045462011008292732012-03-25T13:59:07.443-04:002012-03-25T13:59:07.443-04:00You can see that the basis of their position is th...You can see that the basis of their position is the fundamentally wrong concept that all homosexuality is a choice, and so they are arguing as if they were the same class as goths and jocks. Until they realize that homosexual conversion is mostly a myth (there are spectrums and once-offs), they will persist in bolstering the position of ignorance.TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-35699311886790278692012-03-25T11:27:41.361-04:002012-03-25T11:27:41.361-04:00Cognitive Dissenter -- Despite efforts to present ...Cognitive Dissenter -- Despite efforts to present a veneer of reasoned and humane argument, right-wingers are rarely successful. Of course you can dream!Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-24897379529764734752012-03-25T11:26:26.318-04:002012-03-25T11:26:26.318-04:00Doug -- Nor do I.Doug -- Nor do I.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-40178982204025207672012-03-25T10:29:09.518-04:002012-03-25T10:29:09.518-04:00It would be interesting to see what, if any, argum...It would be interesting to see what, if any, arguments these RWRR advocates could come up with if, instead of fear-mongering with the same tired old dysphemistic and objectively false "god sanctioned" hate speech, they incorporated real facts in their analyses/arguments.<br /><br />- Like if they relied upon science, psychology, statistics, etc. instead of "My Sky Daddy doesn't like ___." My guess is they'd all quietly slink away into a dark corner. So easy to take a bigoted and hateful position then blame the invisible guy who lives in the sky.<br /><br />I know it's highly unlikely that they'll ever educate themselves in a (futile) effort to make a reasoned and humane argument, and thereby figure out they're full of crap, but I can dream. Right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5077809256320470141.post-58173114344351338252012-03-25T08:19:18.634-04:002012-03-25T08:19:18.634-04:00A rather creative interpretation of tolerance, eh?...A rather creative interpretation of tolerance, eh? I don't like it.Doug Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18027574195522869708noreply@blogger.com